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    Default The ugly side of breeding boas (EXTREMELY GRAPHIC!)

    I wish breeding boas was all roses, but unfortunately it's not. I recently had a premature litter of Salmon Jungles and sadly not all the babies made it. So far two of the Salmons have passed from solidified yolk, but the rest of their siblings seem to be okay. The intent of this post is to hopefully educate myself and others on how to possibly prevent this from happening in the future and also show that there is a downside to breeding boas.

    If anyone has a tip or secret on how to guard against solidified yolk, please share it here.


    The first baby to pass away.



    The second baby to pass away.





    In these pics you can see the yolk runs half the length of the snake's body.







    These next pics are EXTREMELY graphic and show the inside of the yolk. Please do not open if you have a weak stomach.

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...2172010020.jpg

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...2172010022.jpg

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...2172010024.jpg


    Thanks in advance for any and all help.


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    Some say to keep them warmer and some say not to warm.. Always moist of course..

    I wish I had the answer for you I have lost babies to this myself.. Conflicting info never seems to help...

    Sorry to see it anyway.
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    About 90 degrees and 90% humdity has helped me in the past. I haven't had enough experience to confirm that this was the contributing factor to my success though. A little luck never hurts either.....

    My hat is off to you for you current and past efforts!

    Steve - sdi

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    damn.......

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    Jason,
    Thanks for posting the info. I think that there are too few people willing to share the less desireable aspects of keeping and attempting to breed these animals. Too often they just show up around breeding and birthing time to use the forum as a form of free marketing.

    Kudos to you for "keeping it real" and as Steve said great job on your efforts.
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    Default The ugly side of breeding boas (EXTREMELY GRAPHIC!)

    Nice post Jason , maybe some clear helpful info will result

    I don't have any personally good experience to ad

    I would be playing a guessing game if put in that position anytime soon


    I would go with Ambient 90*F , 90% plus humidity and keep the babies all together or at
    least in large groups for better warmth, stimulation , & security

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarM View Post

    I would go with 90*F , 90% plus humidity and keep the babies all together or at
    least in large groups for better warmth, stimulation , & security
    That is what I'm going to do from here forward. Right now I have this litter at 92 with 100% humidity which I think is okay, but I may wait a little longer from now on to separate them.


    Thanks for the input everyone.

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    Jason Thank you for the post and details, this has to be a rough one to do. This (IMO) is a true testomony of your charetor and love of boas. Hopefully , info like this will benifit all Boas.
    ed in Ohio

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    I found this article online to be a very interesting read.

    http://www.jwildlifedis.org/cgi/reprint/26/4/564.pdf

    In this article they had to surgically remove the hardened yolk, but did so with good results. Based on that and the pics that I posted, I'm wondering how any unabsorbed yolk would exit the body without surgery? If the yolk doesn't fully absorb, where does it go? In the pics you can see that the yolk is not inside of anything like the stomach or intestines. So how does the snake get it out?


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    thanks for the interesting post

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